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#102843 - 11/01/18 03:14 PM Weather Reports
Doug Sr Offline


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Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 2421
Loc: Whitney
Hi Spent a few hours with the Reno and Vegas weather staff, Looks like we are in a limited radar coverage area and may explain why the forecast are not so great , also most reports cover the 12,000 foot level and not much on ridgeline winds,We talked about using White Mountain data for wind and temps , these may be colder and stronger winds but at least current and would error on the safe side.
A new system from the GOES17 sat. will be online next year for our area and this may help.
So when you see a report for the Sierra recall the range is 450 miles long and the radar covers the Reno and south but fades quickly.
Last week reports of low 37 on the summit we were getting reports of 7-10 degrees , and high 30's in the Portal and the pond froze. So bring gear for cold conditions and we are well into the winter season next storms will bring snow to the Portal elevation.

Look on the main page we have a link to White Mountain weather station.
The Vegas staff said they would work on doing some type of recreation forecast ,something they do for Death Valley. Great group of people interested in helping keep everyone safe .

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#102854 - 11/20/18 11:53 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Richard P. Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 4878
Loc: Ridgecrest, CA
Winter Storm Watch
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Las Vegas NV
646 AM PST Tue Nov 20 2018

.First significant snow of the season headed for the southern
Sierra Wednesday afternoon through early Thursday morning.

CAZ519-202200-
/O.CON.KVEF.WS.A.0003.181121T2200Z-181122T1800Z/
Eastern Sierra Slopes-
Including the cities of Aspendell and Whitney Portal
646 AM PST Tue Nov 20 2018

...WINTER STORM WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON
THROUGH THURSDAY MORNING...

* WHAT...Heavy is snow is possible above 7000 feet. Total snow
accumulations of 6 to 10 inches possible above 8000 feet. 4 to
7 inches are possible between 7000 and 8000 and generally 4
inches or less can be expected below 7000 feet. Winds gusting
over 60 mph will occur over passes and ridge lines.

* WHERE...The east slopes of the southern Sierra including Mount
Whitney.

* WHEN...Wednesday afternoon through Thursday morning.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

This will likely create hazardous hiking and camping conditions
due to snow and blowing snow. Outdoor enthusiasts are urged to be
prepared for winter weather conditions or avoid the high Sierra
Wednesday afternoon through Thursday morning.

&&

$$


Edited by Richard P. (11/20/18 11:54 AM)
Edit Reason: Looks like they are following thru on what they told you...

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#102856 - 11/22/18 09:14 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Richard P.]
Doug Sr Offline


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Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 2421
Loc: Whitney
Thanks Richard for the report, snow last night down to the Portal level say 8000' very light wind in town and cloud bank over the summit ridge this AM so calm on the mountain.
Everyone have a great Thanksgivings

I wrote about the winter weather and the accidents that follow , didn't post, kinda like the Movie groundhog day So if you plan a trip the next few months study up on winter mountaineering.

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#102859 - 11/28/18 05:06 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Richard P. Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 4878
Loc: Ridgecrest, CA
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Las Vegas NV
157 AM PST Wed Nov 28 2018

CAZ519-282230-
/O.CON.KVEF.WS.W.0004.181129T0600Z-181130T1200Z/
Eastern Sierra Slopes-
Including the cities of Aspendell and Whitney Portal
157 AM PST Wed Nov 28 2018

...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM 10 PM THIS EVENING
TO 4 AM PST FRIDAY...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected above 6000 feet. Total snow
accumulations 6 to 12 inches 6000 to 8500 feet. 12 to 30 inches
above 8500 feet. Winds gusting as high as 50 mph near Sierra
ridgetops.

* WHERE...Eastern Sierra Slopes.

* WHEN...From 10 PM Wednesday to 4 AM PST Friday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult to
impossible. Gusty winds could bring down tree branches.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A Winter Storm Warning for snow means severe winter weather
conditions will make travel very hazardous or impossible. If you
must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food and water in your
vehicle in case of an emergency.

The latest road conditions can be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

&&

$$

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#102860 - 11/28/18 06:48 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Richard P.]
Doug Sr Offline


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Loc: Whitney
Well it did , started storming early this AM snow level about 8000' and rain in town most of the afternoon , somewhat warm in town just walked to the store without a jacket 6: 30 pm .
Went to the Portal yesterday to check on cars in the lots , 4 cars total but the wind had started and the system was moving in , warm air mass was moving through 52 degrees around 4 PM colder in the hills.

This system may bring drifts above the Portal as normal so don't get fooled by light snow at the lower elevation , we can get drifts of 2-5' above Outpost to Trail Camp with these early storms same on the Mountaineers route.
Watch the webcam as this system moves out.

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#102861 - 11/30/18 08:54 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Jim F Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 361
Loc: California
Quite an impressive image on the Webcam this morning!

Hope everyone had an enjoyable Thanksgiving.

Jim

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#102862 - 11/30/18 08:02 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Jim F]
Doug Sr Offline


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Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 2421
Loc: Whitney
You are right Jim I left town this AM and thought WOW mountains looking like it will be a strong start of winter.
On that note was on my way up yesterday to shut the gate at the overflow lot , I slid out on the first switchback, about 1 inch of snow but was over ice , made it to the first sharp turn and came back down , at about - 1 mph.
I then went to the airport where we have a supply unit and saw the CHP Helo , looks like someone was on the summit the last few days.
Story is they tried to self rescue for three days , That's about all the details other than they had inreach and was able to text back to the dispatch.or S&R.
Winter is here, looks like planning for quick easy trips are over , Don't climb yourself into trouble , Rescue may not always be available until a storm clears.

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#102864 - 12/02/18 07:54 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Doug Sr Offline


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Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 2421
Loc: Whitney
Ok so walked up to the store this afternoon .As always snow/ice on the road from the east end of the campground.
Cayden and I had light clothing Cayden a sweatshirt and I had a long sleeve shirt not cold enough for heavy gear ,but I think we are adjusted to colder weather.
About 1 inch of fresh snow over ice on the road, 12-18 inches of dry powder in the Portal .Wind over the ridge and sunset was 3 PM in the Portal.
This may be the start of a normal winter,but what happens the next 6-8 weeks will tell the story, we have had early snow like this and then 60 degree days in Feb.

This snow won't pack for awhile so plan on slow going AND if you go stay in the track , next group stay in the track after a few parties following the same track you have a trail . But like they say do what you want you will anyway.

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#102872 - 12/31/18 07:00 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Richard P. Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 4878
Loc: Ridgecrest, CA
Detailed Forecast (From the Vegas Forecasters...)

Today
Mostly sunny and cold, with a temperature rising to near 10 by noon, then falling to around -1 during the remainder of the day. Wind chill values as low as -24. Blustery, with a north wind 20 to 22 mph, with gusts as high as 33 mph.

Tonight
Mostly clear, with a temperature rising to around 1 by 4am. Wind chill values as low as -28. Blustery, with a north wind 21 to 24 mph, with gusts as high as 37 mph.

New Year's Day
Sunny, with a high near 18. Wind chill values as low as -22. Blustery, with a north wind 23 to 26 mph, with gusts as high as 40 mph.

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#102873 - 12/31/18 03:00 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Richard P.]
hightinerary Offline
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Registered: 01/02/03
Posts: 751
Loc: Maryland
Brrr.

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#102876 - 01/04/19 12:30 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: hightinerary]
Richard P. Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 4878
Loc: Ridgecrest, CA
More Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr...


Winter Weather Advisory
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Las Vegas NV
218 AM PST Fri Jan 4 2019

CAZ519-042230-
/O.NEW.KVEF.WW.Y.0001.190105T1800Z-190106T1800Z/
Eastern Sierra Slopes-
Including Aspendell and Whitney Portal
218 AM PST Fri Jan 4 2019

...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 10 AM SATURDAY TO 10 AM
PST SUNDAY...

* WHAT...Snow expected. Total accumulations of up to 8 inches.
Winds gusting as high as 45 mph.

* WHERE...Eastern Sierra Slopes.

* WHEN...From 10 AM Saturday to 10 AM PST Sunday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A Winter Weather Advisory for snow means periods of snow will
cause primarily travel difficulties. Expect snow covered roads
and limited visibilities, and use caution while driving.

The latest road conditions can be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

&&

$$

Morgan

For more information from the National Weather Service visit
http://weather.gov/lasvegas

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#102878 - 01/13/19 02:33 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Richard P.]
Richard P. Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 4878
Loc: Ridgecrest, CA
Winter Storm Warning
URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
National Weather Service Las Vegas NV
223 PM PST Sun Jan 13 2019

CAZ519-521-141130-
/O.UPG.KVEF.WS.A.0001.190114T1800Z-190116T0000Z/
/O.NEW.KVEF.WS.W.0001.190114T2000Z-190115T1200Z/
Eastern Sierra Slopes-White Mountains of Inyo County-
Including Aspendell and Whitney Portal
223 PM PST Sun Jan 13 2019

...WINTER STORM WARNING IN EFFECT FROM NOON MONDAY TO 4 AM PST
TUESDAY ABOVE 5500 FEET...

* WHAT...Heavy snow expected above 5500 feet. Total snow
accumulations in the southern Sierra Nevada 6 to 14 inches, up
to two feet along the crest. For the White Mountains, 5 to 10
inches, locally up to 16 inches above 7000 feet.


* WHERE...Eastern Sierra Slopes and White Mountains of Inyo
County.

* WHEN...From noon Monday to 4 AM PST Tuesday.

* ADDITIONAL DETAILS...Travel could be very difficult to
impossible due to icy or snowpacked roads. This includes Highway
168, as well as Whitney Portal road.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A Winter Storm Warning for snow means severe winter weather
conditions will make travel very hazardous or impossible. If you
must travel, keep an extra flashlight, food and water in your
vehicle in case of an emergency.

The latest road conditions can be obtained by calling 5 1 1.

&&

$$


Is there like 25' of snow up there... it seems as if the forecasts for the past few weeks have been all Snowflakes.

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#102879 - 01/14/19 08:29 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Richard P.]
Doug Sr Offline


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Registered: 12/16/02
Posts: 2421
Loc: Whitney
Snow started early afternoon Lone Pine Campground rain turned to snow in town about 3 PM white out conditions driving in the Alabama Hills and snow at 8 PM in town about 3 inches . First winter storm to hit town in several years. Temp holding around 30 so roads will freeze overnight SO DRIVING WILL BE RISKY ICE OR WHITEOUT CONDITIONS. Bring Jackets and snacks 395 may close . Somewhere between Ridgecrest / Reno tonight.

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#102880 - 01/15/19 04:58 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Richard P. Offline
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Registered: 06/26/03
Posts: 4878
Loc: Ridgecrest, CA
Get Night Vision for the webcam...

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#102881 - 01/15/19 09:22 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Jim F Offline
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Registered: 12/22/02
Posts: 361
Loc: California
Yesterday (1/14) drove from LA to Sacramento. Heading north on I-5 had to dodge the NEW SNOW FIELD AT TEJON PASS. Bailed (without hesitation) onto the 138, then 14, 58, 99. (This detour adds an extra 70 miles to the trip.) At sunset some nice colors on the High Sierra peaks to the East were appreciated.

Jim

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#102882 - 01/15/19 05:57 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Doug Sr]
Jeff M Offline
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Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 736
Loc: Rattlesnake Hill, CA
We used to just call it "winter."

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#102883 - 01/16/19 03:26 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Jeff M]
hightinerary Offline
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Registered: 01/02/03
Posts: 751
Loc: Maryland
Jeff, I'm stuck at Cajon Pass. My car is no longer functional. Can you give me a ride?

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#102884 - 01/16/19 04:15 PM Re: Weather Reports [Re: hightinerary]
Jeff M Offline
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Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 736
Loc: Rattlesnake Hill, CA
On my way!

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#102885 - 01/17/19 09:47 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: hightinerary]
Jeff M Offline
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Registered: 03/23/05
Posts: 736
Loc: Rattlesnake Hill, CA
Ok, well, I got there kinda late but I found your Reliant Regal tipped on its side near the summit. I'm guessing you were bunked with one of the good samaritan big rigs in the rest area, but I didn't want to go door-to-door disturbing everyone. Anyway, I left a new rubber band hanging on the rear-view, so once you're up and at 'em and get that re-wound, you should be good to go. Thanks for calling AAA. (No, not that AAA...)

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#102886 - 01/18/19 11:15 AM Re: Weather Reports [Re: Jeff M]
hightinerary Offline
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Registered: 01/02/03
Posts: 751
Loc: Maryland
I gave up and walked to Fontana and spent the night at the Comfort Inn on Baseline. Then I got up early and walked all the way to San Diego. I've been knocking on Crazy Jack's door, but he won't let me in. I guess I OFFENDED him somehow.

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